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     Awhile back I inspected a 3 story condo that had a flat roof that was also a walking surface/deck.  Originally this roof deck had nice barrier walls all around the roof.

     At some point a previous homeowner decided that a hot tub would be a cool addition to the property.  There were many problems with the installation of this tub including improper installation of the electrical hook-up.  Other “questions” include the questionable stairs to the deck, missing hand rail and whether the roof structure was adequate to support the massive weight of this tub.

Hot tub installation

     I think the thing that made me the most nervous about this installation was the inadequate railing around the walking surface around the tub.  This walking surface was at least 28 feet above the ground.  I am used to crawling around at height, and standing next to this railing made me feel “uneasy”----and I hadn’t started partying in the hot tub yet----and was relatively sober. 

Railing is not high enough

     The lattice-work? -----everyone knows how strong that is! 

Charles Buell

 

 

 

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Comment balloon 20 commentsCharles Buell • January 30 2009 10:49AM

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This was obviously a set up by the soon to be EX- to get the spouse drunk and accidentally 'fall' over the edge to the death.  The 'survivor' would then collect the insurance $$ and fix the railing right nice like.  Can't believe you are spoiling the plan!  cheryl(anyone know a good spot to find poison mushrooms) willis

Posted by Cheryl Willis, MO Broker - Mt Vernon, Monett, Aurora, Barry & Law (RE/MAX Solutions- OZARK MISSOURI) almost 10 years ago

Dear Cheryl (with the problematic significant other) Willis----no idea where you can find any such mushrooms. :)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 10 years ago

Charles,

You sure got me with the title for this post!    I can see that whoever decides to add the hot tub did not give it much consideration.   You pictures make it clear to me that there all a lot of accidents just waiting to happen (buyer beware!).  

Posted by Gerry Khatchikian, ASA, TRC, SFR almost 10 years ago

Gerry, these sorts of things you read about in the paper when the parents are away and the teenagers decide to have a little fun with the liquor cabinet and a contest to see how many can fit in the hot tub. 

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 10 years ago

foiled again!  cw

Posted by Cheryl Willis, MO Broker - Mt Vernon, Monett, Aurora, Barry & Law (RE/MAX Solutions- OZARK MISSOURI) almost 10 years ago

Charles - you worry too much, oh thats your job.  You know when you write that one that the homeowner is going to object.  Probably consulted someone, like Uncle Bob.

 

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) almost 10 years ago

Cheryl, there aren't many secrets around here:)

Jack, I don't think too much about the homeowner's reaction:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 10 years ago

Thats part of what makes you a quality inspector.  If we worry about comments from the agents of homeowners then we can't do our job.

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) almost 10 years ago

Those steps remind me of steps leading up to whirlpool tubs sometime.  The steps are usually marble, slick, however and dangerous as can be.  Do you write those up?

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, GRI, e-PRO, Executive Broker, Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) almost 10 years ago

Mr Charles,

I think you are too critical. I would have no trouble navigating that, even if I had had a couple brews.

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham WA Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc.) almost 10 years ago

Charlie - I don't think THAT hot tub is such a selling feature!

Posted by Carol Culkin, Overland Park (Reece & Nichols) almost 10 years ago

Jack----so true---we can not allow ourselves to think about the seller's reactions or the listing agent's reactions

Barbara, if there are no handrails----for sure.

Nutsy----in case you hadn't noticed----you are a squirrel you know?

Carol----too true.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 10 years ago

Wow Charles!  Did they have approval for that ingenious installation.  Forget the railing (amd I am a bit surprised you did NOT party in the tub) - one day that little puppy is coming through someone's ceiling!

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 10 years ago

The railing is a fine height.  THAT is a beautiful installation.  They are thoughtful people.

 

Very kindly,

 

Croakster

 

P.s.  Do you think I could get the lid off easily?

Posted by Jay Markanich, Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 10 years ago

Charles, It is amazing what we find isn't it? It amazes me when we are referred to as "intellegent" beings... So much for my Darwinism for the day...

Posted by TeamCHI - Complete Home Inspections, Inc., Home Inspectons - Nashville, TN area - 615.661.029 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 10 years ago

Jay, I saw no evidence of work being done under permits:)

Croakster, I don't think you will be able to get the cover off----but I do think you will roll down the stairs quite nicely
:)

Michael, it is installations like this that reminds us of why we have permitting processes and building codes.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 10 years ago

Mr Charles,

Being a squirrel does not mean that I cannot enjoy life and barbecues and decks or riding and breaking scallions for that matter. I am a people too.

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham WA Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc.) almost 10 years ago

Nutsy---you just keep riding the "wild scallion"----just don't breath on me:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 10 years ago

You hadn't started partying yet...I caught that!

Posted by Jim Albano, Team - Jean-Marie Vantuno / Realtors North Jersey Real Estate (Prudential Damiano Realty ) almost 10 years ago

Jim---guys just wanna have fun:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections Inc.) almost 10 years ago

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