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     Stairs to basements in older homes are often steep and built to less than satisfactory standards.  It is almost as if they were constructed as an after thought, and were fitted in any way they could.  They often have sharp winding turns, insufficient or missing handrails, low clearances to bang your head on, and insufficient or missing side barriers.

     While these stairs might have been somewhat satisfactory when the only thing down there was the furnace and the water heater, as these basements took on more everyday uses such as laundry rooms, family rooms, and additional bedrooms, these stairs represent an increased safety risk.

     Improving these stairs so that they are not so steep and are safe by current standards can be very costly and might even require relocation of the stairs and/or changes in the floor structure to improve them.  This is usually not done. 

     One requirement that becomes necessary as the basement is developed into "living space" is for there to be a light switch at the top and the bottom of the stairs.   This is especially important as a safety "upgrade" if the stairs are themselves to remain dangerous----and least you will be able to see where you are falling and others will be able to locate you to pick up the pieces.

     In older homes, a switch only at the top was quite common.  A home I inspected the other day used to have a switch located at the top of the stairs but it was abandoned in favor of one located half way down the stairs----sort of "ideally" wrong for whether you were going up or down the stairs.

Light switch in a dangerous place 

 

Charles Buell

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19 commentsCharles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector • December 15 2008 01:24PM

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This is such an easy fix that "Common Sense" tells us it should be done.  The light should be at the top of the stairs to illuminate the body on the way down.  That way someone can actually see how many flips you do on the way down.

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) over 3 years ago

Charles, we have a number of homes that have this issue in our area.  I would think that if you are going to the expense to build out the basement into living space that the repairs in the stairs should become part of the code required for a building permit.

Posted by Tony Cannon, e-PRO & Darcy Cannon, SFR - The C Team (RE/Max Velocity Realty) over 3 years ago

I can't even imagine the conversation that went on, where they decided to put the switch out of reach for going up OR down the stairs!  Brilliant!

Posted by Alan May, Coldwell Banker Realtor® Evanston, Illinois & Northern Suburbs (847.425.3779 almay@aol.com) over 3 years ago

Jack, such a good point----it is important to properly illuminate the number of bounces:)

Tony & Darcy, as amazing as it may seem codes rarely make you "upgrade" the stairs----I agree they should though----and I think most people would do it in the context of a big remodel.  It is the "cosmetic" remodels where it doesn't get done.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Alan, "Brilliant" reminds me of those Guiness commercials:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Charles, It's usually the stuff you can't see that will kill you...

Posted by Paul Henderson, Broker, Realtor® Tacoma,Gig Harbor,DuPont,HartstenePointe (RE/MAX Professionals & Four Seasons Inc.) over 3 years ago

So true Paul----pretty literally in this case.  Of course you could go around wearing a head lamp all the time:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Some of those stairs are indeed dangerous.  Since we don't have many basements here the builders have to do their skills with stairs to the second story.  They pull some real lulus there and they are real famous for leaving off a handrail! 

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) over 3 years ago

Charles that was the perfect place for the switch. You see that's were the light from the top hallway coming down before it hit the shadow of dark. If they would have located it farther down, the darkness would have not let you see it before the final tumble down.

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Posted by Roy A. Peterson P.R.E.I. (Domicile Analysis of Texas) over 3 years ago

Barbara, you are so right----I could do an equally humorous post about stairs to upper floor levels.

Roy, you skills of observation are overwhelming me----I am flogging myself ritualistically for not thinking of it myself:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

You definitely don't have a boring job.  Your clients are giving you plenty to report back to us about here :)

Posted by Jim & Maria Hart ~ Charleston, SC Real Estate (Brand Name Real Estate) over 3 years ago

Jim & Maria----definately not boring.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

I have seen low clearances where you could break a light bulb, hanging down from a socket, with your head. Other times I have seen foam pads wrapped around a low beam or joist.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

Charles, Kinda makes you wonder what they were smokin'...

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Posted by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector - 615.661.0297 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Maybe the middle switch was to the Reskin tiffany over the pool table.  You would want to turn it on so that as you get to the bottom the effect is ready and waiting...

Okay, maybe the effect this year isn't ideal, but NEXT YEAR we're really gonna get'em!

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 3 years ago

Steve, too true----low clearances were very common.  People just weren't "that" much shorter back then:)

Michael, while some of the work actually appeared to have been done by a "professional" there was not seal on the meter:)

Jay, I can't imagine trying to find this switch in the dark too many times before I started to think how strange it was.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

I think Roy has a point, why do you need light in the stairway. The light from the hall should be enough to illuminate the narrow, steep stairs.

Posted by James Quarello - Connecticut Home Inspector (JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC) over 3 years ago

Dear Mr Charles,

If you can see this in Florida, please call the office. I am having a heck of a time answering the phone for you. People tell me to quit chattering and it is offensive. This running Charles Buell Inspections is harder than you lead me to believe. By the way, how do I turn up the thermostat in your office. I am cold.

Your backup,

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

It looks like they placed the switch where they were able to reach. Since the steps are so steep, they probably couldn't reach to mount it near the top of the steps.

Posted by Jim Albano / North Jersey Real Estate Team - Jean-Marie Vantuno / Realtors® (Prudential Damiano Realty ) over 3 years ago

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