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You never know when Mold is going to bite you in the butt!

  Bathrooms can be very wet and humid places.

Water splashed onto floors,

wet shower walls with closed curtains or glass enclosures,

wet towels hung to dry,

and boys with bad aim,sunsmile can account for a lot of humidity in a bathroom.  This is especially the case if there is no exhaust fan----or if the fan is not functional or doesn't get used.

     These conditions make for a great place to grow a good batch of mold.  While some of this will be apparent on grout lines,  the corners of the tub and shower, and on walls and ceilings, the condition can be concealed by recent painting, caulking and cleaning----as is common when the house is put on the market.

     The inspector wants to know how the bathroom is doing moisture wise.  He or she wants to know if a month after the inspection, whether all the painted-over mold going to break through the surface like some creature in a science fiction movie.

     There is usually one place that gets overlooked in the quest to eliminate this unsightly condition prior to sale.  This is the coldest and wettest place in the bathroom.  Even under the best of conditions it can be a good habitat for mold growth.  But because of this "naturally conducive" environment it is also a good indicator of the bathroom humidity in general, and would lead the inspector to look more carefully in other areas of the bathroom.

     Can you guess where this place is?

     It is the underside of the toilet tank.

mold on the toilet tank 

     Bathrooms with poor ventilation or high humidity (due to the many causes discussed) will often have toilet tanks that look like this.  How about your toilet tank?

Charles Buell 

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Comments

Fergit it!  I am not stickin' my nose in the toilet tank!  That does look like my foreclosures!

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) over 3 years ago

I have yet to see mold there!

Posted by Courtney Cooper 206-850-8841 (All Seattle Homes for Sale: CooperJacobs.com) over 3 years ago

Barbara, UNDER the tank not IN the tank:)

Courtney, I hope some other inspectors will chime in----I have to say about 50% of all bathrooms have some amount of growth on the underside of the tank----in older housing stock that is.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Mold is everywhere.

All the best and keep on blogging.

Bill

Posted by Bill C. Merrell, Ph.D. (Merrell Institute ~ Appraisal Education Network) over 3 years ago

Charles, I am amazed how you get your photos, the angles and all. This one is NOT a pretty sight.

Posted by Gary Woltal - Assoc. Broker REALTOR® SFR Dallas Ft. Worth (Keller Williams Realty) over 3 years ago

Bill, kind of like Chicken Man, "He's everywhere, he's everywhere"

Gary, thanks. You are right---not pretty (well except for the blue sky:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Wow,  great blog and I love the smiley face inserts!

Posted by Cheryl Winn (Keller Williams Realty) over 3 years ago

Cheryl, thanks----I think the messages behind the pictures and smiley face inserts get by most people:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

There's an interesting indicator to look for.  I'll keep an eye out when I'm showing listings. 

Posted by Brian Brumpton, Boise Idaho Real Estate (Keller Williams Boise) over 3 years ago

I had to go recheck.  I thought you'd put a smiley face in the midst of the mold under the toilet.  But now I see!

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) over 3 years ago

I was going to guess INSIDE the floor register but seeing there wasn't a prize I will wait.  That was one nasty looking potty!  cherry (your posts should come with a warning)willis

Posted by Cheryl Willis, MO BROKER Mt Vernon, Monett, Aurora, Barry & Lawrence Co. (RE/MAX Solutions- OZARK MISSOURI) over 3 years ago

Brian, thanks for stopping by

Barbara, very funny

Cheryl, I have included "warnings" with some---but this was way too tame for a warning:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Mold is everywhere you can or can't see, nice catch Charles.

Posted by Gary Bercarich (All Phase Home Inspection, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Holy cow that is a nasty photo. When I had apartments, the bathrooms in some of the units would get nasty like that all around the bathtub because NOBODY would bother to clean.

Sean Allen

Posted by International Financing Solutions over 3 years ago

Gary, this is a favorite place for it.

Sean, based on lots of the comments so far, it seems that many are surprized by the picture, and yet it is so common, in even the most well kept houses around here, that I tend to see it as almost "normal."

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Charlie,

Good information. Mold is something people hear about but do not know much about.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

Wow Charles, This is the first time that I have seen mold grow under a toilet tank. who wudda thunk...

Posted by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector - 615.661.0297 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) over 3 years ago

Charles (bend yourself into a pretzel to get a picture) Buell, you are dedicated!

Posted by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)) over 3 years ago

PS: If this IS mold, you have to wonder what the food source is ... on porcelain?

Mold needs water... AND a food source to grow.

Posted by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)) over 3 years ago

Steve, you see this condition too don't you?

Kevin, I think there is no shortage of food for this stuff on bathroom surfaces.  The bottom of the tank is not usually very well "finished" and very rough----enough to get it started and then it will also have its decaying self to feed on.  It is not like Rot that actually "eats" the wood----mold is merely an "inhabiting" fungus.

Michael, I am beginning to think this is a NW phenomenon:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Charlie,

Yes I see that fairly often. Not unusual here.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 3 years ago

Charles, I really think that this must be related to your being in a "high humidity environment"? The only time I have ever seen this is when there is some other problem, such as a slight leak, or some other reason that humidity is high in a particular house.

I think you can look under a lot of toilet tanks around here before you would see this.

Posted by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)) over 3 years ago

Charlie - Hang on...I'm going to run and get a mirror because I can't see myself getting down on the floor to look at the underside of my toilet. I am really glad your not coming to inspect one of MY listings. geeze! You don't stop at nothing!   

Posted by Carol Culkin, Dutchess County (Century 21 Alliance Realty Group ) over 3 years ago

Kevin, love to see these regional differences.

Carol, I sure enjoy the mental images I have of people running all over their homes after reading my blogs:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

OK, I never thought of that one.  Please excuse me.  I'm leaving now to go check my bathroom...

Posted by Margaret Mitchell, York Maine Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Yorke Realty) over 3 years ago

Margaret, report back what you find:)  There will be prize for anyone that can supply a picture of their own toilet that looks like the one I posted:)

 

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Charlie:  Is that part of your check sheet?  I think I am getting sick just by looking at the photo.  Maybe you should wear a respirator to work!

Posted by Leslie Bloss, Bellevue Real Estate Professional over 3 years ago

Do you mean do I usually look in this area?  Those connections often leak so I am always checking this area. 

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 3 years ago

Thats good stuff.  It is like the window sills in sleeping rooms here.  I think skin cells, cotton fibers, pet dander...etc...  all kinds of good microbial stuff to feed our little black friend.

Posted by Jim Allhiser Salem, Oregon Home Inspector (Perfection Inspection, Inc.) over 3 years ago

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