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Is your Garbage Disposal "too-hot-to-handle?"

     One of those "nit-picky" (gotta love that word) things Home Inspectors routinely call out, is the electrical connection to the disposal.  This connection is "messed-up" more than any other single defect that I can think of in a kitchen.  I think it is because so often it is an installation that the average handy-person figures they can handle.  The reality is, that the connection is really pretty easy to do if you make the electrical connection before you install the dang thing!  (Turn off the electricity first by the way)  Most of these compromised connections look as though someone did them while stuffing themselves inside the sink cabinet.

     But back to the "nit-picky."  The problem is, this can be a fairly serious safety issue.   A shorted-out connection might actually energize the metal exterior of the disposal and even possibly the sink.  All a person would have to do is touch the disposal while getting a new Brillo pad from under the sink-----while holding onto the metal sink and  then.......

.......now wouldn't that be exciting! 

     On a recent inspection I found this really poor electrical connection to the disposal.

 bad disposal connection

     When I put the waste box back under the sink-----I discovered a big part of the "why.".

 Barbara----you better go look under your sink:)

     How many of you have waste baskets under your kitchen sinks?

     What kind of damage are they doing?

Charles Buell

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Comments

That looks scary! And shocking! LOL I'm glad I don't have a trash can under there. I know many people that do.

Posted by Lizette Fitzpatrick - Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes - Horse Farms (Lizette Realty - Lexington KY - Richmond KY) almost 4 years ago

wow.  I've got a basket under my kitchen sink and I just checked it Charlie.   No damage.   Thanks for the heads up :)

 

Posted by Kara Casamassina, "Boomers and beyond..." (The Carolina Real Estate Company) almost 4 years ago

Thanks for sharing this

Stan

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Avon Lake, Ohio

 

Posted by Stan Stepak Avon Lake REALTOR (Avon Lake, Bay Village, Westlake, OH) (Howard Hanna Gold- Avon Lake, OH) almost 4 years ago

And some people wonder why they should spend money on a home inspection.  Is is so worth it for peace of mind.

Posted by Richard Mielke, REALTOR, Gettysburg Pennsylvania Real Estate (Miller & Associates Real Estate, LLC) almost 4 years ago

Lizette, most people have everything but the kitchen sink under there:)

Kara, did you really go look?  Sounds like something Barbara would do----hence the title on the bottom picture:)

Stan,  thanks for stopping by

Richard, only one of a gazillion reasons me thinks.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

Charles we have the waste bucket on a track but it is on the other side. Damaging the garbage disposal makes no sense.

Posted by Gary Woltal - Assoc. Broker REALTOR® SFR Dallas Ft. Worth (Keller Williams Realty) almost 4 years ago

Gary, sounds like a good plan.  Personally I don't have one at all (a disposal that is), so I can throw old transmissions and anything else I want under there safely:)   Even have a couple of Steve's racoons living under there----kind of hope they do get electrocuted.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

That's a great tip.  I've found a couple loose, but nothing like in your picture!  Thanks.

Posted by Andrew Cox (Cox Property Services) almost 4 years ago

Andrew, this one was one of three similiar installations in a four unit appartment building.  The fourth unit was missing its disposal altogether----probably safer that way:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

Charles - I never thought of this before - I don't keep any garbage under thesink,but I know most people do!  Interesting.

Posted by Courtney Cooper 206-850-8841 (All Seattle Homes for Sale: CooperJacobs.com) almost 4 years ago

Courtney, if it is not the garbage its the dog food container, or mini vac, or mop bucket (you know the nice metal ones that whack the electrical connections really good:)  (glad to see you stopping by my blog by the way Courtney)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

Ooops!  We need you guys!

Posted by Richard T Dolbeare, R(B), ABR, CRS, RSPS BS/MS - Engineering Hawaii Dreams Today (Keller Williams Realty) almost 4 years ago

From the picture, it doesn't look like that bx was ever properly clamped in the first place.

Posted by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)) almost 4 years ago

Charles, I was going to write on this today but I will have to dig into my inspector bag and pull out another goodie. It is amazing that across the country we see the same things...

Posted by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector - 615.661.0297 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 4 years ago

Charles, I was going to write on this today but I will have to dig into my inspector bag and pull out another goodie. It is amazing that across the country we see the same things...

Posted by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector - 615.661.0297 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 4 years ago

I feel as if I should be getting CE credit for reading your blog...always full of useful information.  Thank you for taking the time -- the photos make all the difference in the world to those of us who are mechanically challenged.  ;-)

Posted by Susan Haughton ALEXANDRIA VA REAL ESTATE REALTOR, ABR (LONG & FOSTER REALTORS) almost 4 years ago

Richard, I like to think so:)

Kevin, You are right-----about this connection---another one from the same building.

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Michael, go ahead and link them together if you want.

Susan, where shall I send you your CE certificate?

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

It happen everywhere. The worst one I found is one that was wired up outside of the unit and the wire nut was missing on the black (hot) wire. The house was being flipped.

Posted by Phillip R. Smith Sr. (Home Sweet Home Inspections) almost 4 years ago

Phillip, yes, I would be surprized if bad disposal hook-ups wasn't a world wide crisis:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

Yes Charlie - - - I really did go and check!  I thank you - and I'm sure my landlord thanks you as well :)

Posted by Kara Casamassina, "Boomers and beyond..." (The Carolina Real Estate Company) almost 4 years ago

There are many mechancial things like that. Do it out of order and it is hard to do.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 4 years ago

Charlie - I haven't had garbage disposal issues here - most of the area is well/septic so only about 40% of my sales involve garbage disposals - but, this is great info.  

Posted by Carol Culkin, Dutchess County (Century 21 Alliance Realty Group ) almost 4 years ago

Steve, another good one is putting faucets on sinks.  It is way easier to put them on the sink before you install the sink than after:)

Carol, so how often do you find disposals on septic systems?----happens all the time here----even though not allowed.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

Charles, my husband just demanded an answer to why my head was under the sink.  I told him some nut in WA said my garbage disposal might be wired wrong.  With a blog that was almost dedicated to me!  Mine has an ordinary plug that evidently came on it and plugs into the outlet on the wall.  My garbage can has its on pullout but there's a lot of other junk under there.

This is really a good blog and gets you off your favorite, waterheaters! 

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) almost 4 years ago

Barbara----sounds like a good installation.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

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