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It just didn't quite pan out AGAIN.

      In my Don Quixote blog  the other day I talked about his amazing, rare, and small (but worthwhile) Victory

     Today I want to discuss another issue at the windmill that deserves a blog all to itself (and unfortunately makes his victory all the more hollow).

     The Laundry.

     Do all Windmills have Laundries?----apparently some do.  Perhaps someone thought this "dragon" would be outside the Don's training and it would go un-noticed and unchallenged.

     In the first windmill the tray for the washing machine had been installed "sideways."  These trays are approximately 32" by 30"----they are NOT square.  If you have a space for a side-by-side washer and dryer (typically 58-60 inches to accommodate a standard 29" wide dryer and 26" wide washer) and you install the tray sideways the dryer is not going to fit in the remaining space because of the tray.

No room for the dryer 

     If you do the math in the picture above it is going to be "close" to not working no matter which way the tray goes.  Can you say "Stacking" washer/dryer?

     The tray should be installed the LONG way----front to back.  The reason for this is so that the drain and supply hoses/ connections behind the washer will drip into the tray if there is a leak.  This also leaves as much space as possible next to the tray for the dryer.

     Another issue with this tray was that neither of the manufacturer's cut-out locations for the pan drain was used. Instead, the installer had made their own drain location and caulked around the pipe where it entered the pan.  As you can see in the picture----silicone doesn't really stick very well to the PVC pan. (Note the un-used drain location at the right edge of the picture.)

Pipe is not connected to pan 

     In the "year-later-windmill" we had an almost identical installation----with the addition of screws through the drain pan into the floor to hold the pan in place.  These screw heads were caulked with the same silicone which we have already learned doesn't stick very well to the PVC tray.  All of these additional, unnecessary holes will result in leaking of the tray over time.

     What a pan in the butt!

Charles Buell 

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Comments

You're so funny....pan in the butt!  I have not seen any of these pans in our area.  Must be a new West coast thing.  I'd think the washing machine would dance all over this thing.

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) almost 4 years ago

Hmmm, something I never thought about here - and definitely hope I never have to again. 

Posted by Hope Goss Ventura Real Estate (Ventura Property Shoppe) almost 4 years ago

Here you go Barbara: washing machine dance

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

Hope, do you see these pans in your area?

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

I say at LEAST 60" in width is needed for the average washer-dryer pair to be manuevered in and out safely (without damage). Less space than that generally causes problems, such as washer banging up against the dryer or wall during spin cycle, resulting in appliance and/or wall damage.

Posted by KEVIN CORSA H.I.S. Home Inspections Stark & Summit County, OH Home Inspector (H.I.S. Home Inspections (Summit, Stark Counties)) almost 4 years ago

Repeat:  You are so funny!  So you agree washing machines dance!! 

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) almost 4 years ago

Charles, doesn't this situation fit into the measure twice, cut once category? One must be careful with the details.

Posted by Gary Woltal - Assoc. Broker REALTOR® SFR Dallas Ft. Worth (Keller Williams Realty) almost 4 years ago

Kevin, 60" is definitely a good idea.

Barbara, the trays----maybe we need to rename them "corrals"?

Gary, that and an understanding of the "bigger picture":)

 

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

Charlie, there you go getting your panties in a knot over a washing machine.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 4 years ago

Good catch Charles. It is amazing what some contractors will do isn't it?

Posted by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector - 615.661.0297 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) almost 4 years ago

Stevie, to to:)

Michael, these things can be a pain in the butt---even if they are a great idea----especially on second floor installations.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 4 years ago

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