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Rots! Better luck next time! (Bet you thought I meant “rats” didn’t you?)

     This is indeed what you think it is----even looks like one.  It could be straight out of Walt Disney, it is so classic.

And behind door number 1?

     It even has a concrete stoop in front of the entrance.  An actual door would be an improvement I think.

     While I could talk about rats in relation to this “doorway,” what this post is really about is the concrete stoop at the doorway.  It is about what happens when concrete patios get installed over the top of wood siding in the Pacific Northwest.  If the siding is buried, so is the wood floor system behind it.  It could also be about what happens when you don’t have your crawl space inspected for 30 years----or about all the Green bottle fliesbottle fliesGreen bottle flies----or about the lack of ventilation. 

     Just the other side of this entryway, the following picture shows what the floor system looked like.

Can you see the three bottle flies?

     I don’t think you have to have ANY experience at anything to know that this does not look right.  The grey shape just to the right of the center of the picture is the edge of the concrete patio----the framing all rotted away.

     The crawl space vent was also covered over when the patio was installed and can be seen at the lower right corner of the picture.

     I would say, “Rotten luck,” but it really didn’t have anything to do with luck to get this way.

 

Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector

 

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Comments

The tenants of our one rental house had a problem with Rats a few years ago. I discovered the access point: behind the front cement steps, through the rim joist that looked just like the one in your picture. It didn't help much that they were using a corn-based kittle litter. They have a set of wooden steps now with flashing between them and the new rim joist.

Posted by Glenn Roberts - Seattle Residential (Lake & Company Real Estate) over 1 year ago

Charles, It just goes to show that the job needs to be done right, all kinds of things happen when it's not.  And I did think you meant Rats! LOL.

Posted by Susan Brown (Keller Williams NE, Kingwood Texas (Humble & Atascocita too)) over 1 year ago

I can't think of anything to say other than "eewwwww".

Posted by Alan May, Coldwell Banker Realtor® Evanston, Illinois Homes for Sale (Evanston Condos & Evanston Single Family Homes) over 1 year ago

Somehow I figure "Mickey and Minnie" would have better taste in decorating.  Nice photo Charles.  Not everyday you get to see the inside of a mouse's house. 

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) over 1 year ago

When I see an inspection report with photos like the ones you've pictured, all I can think of is how much money will it take to remedy this situation.

Posted by Craig Rutman Raleigh/ Cary/ Apex area Realtor (Helping people in transition) over 1 year ago

Rots of luck repairing that damage =)
Smile, It's gonna be a great week Charles!
Paul

Posted by Paul Henderson, Broker, Realtor® Tacoma,Gig Harbor,DuPont,HartstenePointe (RE/MAX Professionals & Four Seasons Inc.) over 1 year ago

Glenn, some how all those wood structures have to be protected----or the concrete structures removed or lowered.

Susan, I get a lot of mileage out of rats :)

Alan, you always like "eewwwww" :)

Jack----I wish it was just mice

Craig, and sometimes you can't really tell until you get in there and start tearing things apart.

Paul, it is all still just "boards and nails" :)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 1 year ago

eeeeewwwrr right.

Posted by Alan May, Coldwell Banker Realtor® Evanston, Illinois Homes for Sale (Evanston Condos & Evanston Single Family Homes) over 1 year ago

Moist conditions?

Conducive conditions?

Did it make your report?

Am I being obnoxious? 

I get accused of that all the time by my daughter.  I tell her it is just another service I offer...

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 1 year ago

THat's pretty yucky. Glad it's not my house! I see a lot of bad basements here in KY. Rotten floor joists in one the other day. Deal got dropped after inspection.

Posted by Lizette Fitzpatrick - Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes - Horse Farms (Lizette Realty - Lexington KY - Richmond KY) over 1 year ago

Mr Charles you big silly. If you switch from bottles to mugs, the flies goes aways.

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) over 1 year ago

Jay, and a good service it is :)

Lizette, I have expect this in a crawl space----even less excuse in a basement

Nutsy, I guess you would know

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 1 year ago

Charles,

The beauty of the NW.  Whats a home with out a little rot?

Really, good post many have no clue what the ramifications are of performing this type of work. 

Don

Posted by Donald Hester NCW Home Inspections, LLC (NCW Home Inspections, LLC) over 1 year ago

Thank goodness I have not seen anything like this come across my inspection reports.  What do you say but fix it and then have it reinspected.

Posted by Diane Osowiecki Greater Nashville Real Estate (Diane O and Friends - Benchmark Realty) over 1 year ago

Don, it is pretty rare to not find a little decay somewhere

Diane, as well as monitor for signs of continued leaking etc.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) over 1 year ago

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