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If all else fails-----read the instructions!

     It is not uncommon, while inspecting roofs, to find the test caps still in place on plumbing vents.  Part of inspecting the original installation of the plumbing system for leaks requires that all openings be capped off.  After the test, the test caps are removed so that the plumbing system can function properly.  Here is a picture of a test cap I found still in place recently on a roof----most likely it had been there since 1980 when the building was built.

How do I remove this cap?

     Even 30 years later the “instructions” for how to remove the cap are clearly visible.  In light of the instructions, I got a good giggle out of how the problem was resolved----as shows in the next picture.

Holy vent pipe Batman

     Holy vent pipe Batman!

 

Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector

 

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Comments

Charles,

I think many of us are guilty of reading instructions.  Don't you wish they were written in plain easy English?

Posted by Ron & Alexandra Seigel (Luxury Real Estate Marketing) (ra@napaconsultants.com) almost 2 years ago

What' s the rule?  Stupid is as stupid does?  Can't tell you how many times, I have NOT read the instructions only to my frustration.

Posted by Larry Bettag - Cherry Creek Mortgage almost 2 years ago

You must run into stuff like this all the time, although amusing-you wish people would have some common sense! Thanks for sharing, Jen

Posted by Jennifer Dulmaine, Seth Campbell Realty Group (Keller Williams Realty) almost 2 years ago

I've never heard of this before and find it interesting! Have a great Saturday!

Posted by Sam White - Bryan & College Station, Tx (Keller Williams Realty Bryan College Station) almost 2 years ago

Mr Charles,

Please explain why you drilled all those holes in the pipe. Doing that will allow air to pass in you know.

Nutsy

 

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 2 years ago

Seriously??  Seriously!?!?  they recognized that the pipe needed to be "open"... and instead of removing the very clearly marked cap... they drilled holes in the freakin' pipe!?!

Posted by Alan May, Coldwell Banker Realtor® Evanston, Illinois & Northern Suburbs (847.425.3779 almay@aol.com) almost 2 years ago

Charles,

Now that is pretty funny.....I bet that gave you as great of a chuckle as it did for us...

Posted by LORI COFER ~ PULLMAN WA -- Realtor® ~ 509-330-0086 (Beasley Realty) almost 2 years ago

Funniest thing I ever saw? Well, considering it's a plumber's venue, I suppose not.

Posted by Glenn Roberts - Seattle Residential (Lake & Company Real Estate) almost 2 years ago

There are some real idiots running around! This cap left on is a common problem.

Posted by Lizette Fitzpatrick - Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes - Horse Farms (Lizette Realty - Lexington KY - Richmond KY) almost 2 years ago

Interesting.  I don't think even I would be that foolish.  Well, perhaps...

Posted by Jason Sardi (I love kittens cute & My Jennifer!!) almost 2 years ago

Ron and Alexandra, in this case the instructions were pretty clear :)

Larry, that is a "guy" thing after all :)

Jennifer, it helps me keep my job

Sam, thanks for stopping by

Nutsy, they kind of match the ones in your head don't they?

Alan, this is almost "Believe it or not" material isn't it?

Lori, yes I got quite the good laugh

Lizette, yup----happens a lot

Jason, I am sure you are smarter than this :)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 2 years ago

Kinda looks like the muzzle of a machine gun sticking out of the roof.

Posted by Alan May, Coldwell Banker Realtor® Evanston, Illinois & Northern Suburbs (847.425.3779 almay@aol.com) almost 2 years ago

Wow, amazing that it would be closed all these years. 'Read the instructions' is right in there with 'plug it in!'

Posted by John Thomas -- EcoBroker, MSEE, MBA (E3 Green HOMES) almost 2 years ago

Charles - that is interesting that it has been closed for all this time. I did not know about this, and appreciate learning something new!

Posted by Sharon Paxson Newport Beach Real Estate (Prudential California Realty, DRE License 01501912) almost 2 years ago

Charles,

The plumber got to charge lots more for drilling the holes then unscrewing the cap.  S/he also propably got to convince his/her significant other that they needs yet another tool to accomplish this specific job.  We all know how everyone like to go out shopping for new tools.

Posted by Diane Osowiecki Greater Nashville Real Estate (Diane O and Friends - Benchmark Realty) almost 2 years ago

I can see the logic here. Using this approach prevents rain water from entering the... plumbing?

 

OK, maybe logic wasn't the right word.

Posted by Curtis C Brown (CURTIS C HOME INSPECTION SERVICES, LLC (Whatcom County, WA) almost 2 years ago

Do you think the builders knew that, perhaps, the home owner or other person, wouldn't go up on the roof to remove it, so they just install it as a fail safe solution?  Was this the first you've seen??  You find the most interesting things!

Posted by Carla Muss-Jacobs - Exclusive Buyers Agent Portland | Portland Real Estate | (503-810-7192 | BuyersAgentPortland.com) almost 2 years ago

Real Men don't need to stinky directions!  We just geter done.

Posted by Gene Riemenschneider East Contra Costa Home Sales 01492725 (Home Point Real Estate) almost 2 years ago

Someone was in a hurry to get a cold one on the way home or maybe the helper fell off the roof. 

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) almost 2 years ago

Once I found the roof sheathing with the "This Side Installed Up" stamp on the underside, visible from the attic space.  The builder got mad at me for pointing this out to my client, who clearly understood that it was installed improperly.  I said, "Get roofers who can read or understand English," to the builder.  It was an expensive fix on a new home.

Clearly those guys on your roof didn't read well either!

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 2 years ago

Wow, the things you run across in just doing your job.  That would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

Posted by Lanette Branch, - Bel Air, MD REALTOR (RE/MAX Components) almost 2 years ago

Alan, do you have some first hand experience with that?

John, yup----one of the first thing a techie will ask you.

Sharon, for sure

Diane, I would love to know the "hole" story about this :)

Curtis, yes it is hard to find a way to include "logic" in the conversation

Carla, I find the caps often left in place----just never this "solution" to the problem :)

Gene, yup----for sure

Jack, there are all kinds of excuses I can think of for the cap being left there----the holes is way out there

Lanette, I still found it pretty dang funny :)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 2 years ago

Well, I once again learned something new!  In 14 years of attending/reading clients Home Inspection Reports this is the first I heard of this one.  The issue looks pretty obvious though -- even to me!  Digital cameras rank right up there with computers!

Sue of Robin and Sue

Posted by Robin & Sue REALTORs® Hendersonville & Western NC Real Estate (Advocate Realty) almost 2 years ago

Sue, this defect is actually less common than the post may imply-----I probably only find a couple a year.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 2 years ago

Hi Charles,

A fantastic post. Only in Gotham City would a machine gun be seemingly used to open up a vent pipe. Tough neighbohoods there in Seattle.

Posted by Bill Saunders (Hot Springs Arkansas homes for sale (Diamondhead Realty)) almost 2 years ago

I find it hard some times to read the instructions. The roof is my obstacle...

Posted by Paul Henderson, Broker, Realtor® Tacoma,Gig Harbor,DuPont,HartstenePointe (RE/MAX Professionals & Four Seasons Inc.) almost 2 years ago

Mr Charles,

You are infuriating me with your non-chalet way of talking down to me. This is not acceptable and I transcended for your scraggly sole.

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 2 years ago

It never ceases to amaze me some of the things you guys see when inspecting homes. 

Posted by Craig Rutman Raleigh/ Cary/ Apex area Realtor (Helping people in transition) almost 2 years ago

Charles,

Great post, I am still giggling. I had one (vent plug) just a week ago but your 30 year old plug with custom vent holes beats my by far.

Great stuff,

 

Don

Posted by Donald Hester NCW Home Inspections, LLC (NCW Home Inspections, LLC) almost 2 years ago

Bill, a few more shots and it would have been cut right off

Paul, so shooting it off from the ground is a way to avoid going on the roof? :)

Nutsy, that is the most sense you have made in weeks

Craig, me neither :)

Don, for sure

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 2 years ago

Bwahahahahaha!  I've seen a lot of vent caps that haven't been removed, but never seen a repair like that.

Posted by Minneapolis Home Inspections - Reuben Saltzman (Structure Tech Home Inspections) almost 2 years ago

Reuben, this was a first for me too

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 2 years ago

I bet the home owner went to a do-it-yourself store and told the clerk, my vent pipe has a cap on it what do I do?  The sales person then upsold a drill, extension cord, couple bits and the homeowner 'saved' the expense of hiring a 10 yr old to read the instructions!  cheryl(just my version of the story)willis

Posted by Cheryl Willis, MO BROKER Mt Vernon, Monett, Aurora, Barry & Lawrence Co. (RE/MAX Solutions- OZARK MISSOURI) almost 2 years ago

Cheryl, capitalism at its best :)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 2 years ago

Mr Charles,

That is over my head and cut my ears off

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 2 years ago

Oh no, not reading the instructions.  He could never do that.  It's much easier to just keep trying into you break whatever it is.  Either by twisting it too hard, or kicking it.  I have seen "the boys" do that more times than I can count.

Oh, and I forgot the old stand-by.  When all else fails, us a bigger hammer.

Posted by Carolyn Kolba - RE/MAX Traditions - Mentor, Ohio (Serving Mentor, and all of Lake County, Ohio) almost 2 years ago

Nutsy, trust me when I say that no one is surprised

Carolyn, that is a "guy thing" for sure

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 2 years ago

I never would have guessed this was so common, LOL.  Passing it along to those in my area :)

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