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What do you mean the fireplace is only decorative?

     Carpet installers can transform a house almost as quick as painters. 

     Just look at this job. 

     This old basement rec room was spiffed up in a hurry with some nice new carpeting----it even makes the old paneling look passable.  But again---because of over specialization of the trades and lack of adequate training in the responsibilities of other trades (maybe we should call this “cross-trading”)---this carpet installer has made a mess of things in spite of how nice their work looks in the picture.

Whoops----no hearth

     The carpet has been installed over the hearth for a very nice “clean/crisp” look, and the fireplace has been transformed into a plant holder.  The hearth on this fireplace should protrude in front of the opening at least 18” and be non-combustible----unlike the carpet.

There it is!

     Not a difficult fix for a carpet installer that knows what they are doing.

 

 

 

Charles Buell

 

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Comments

Hi, Charles,

Good grief, what was he thinking?  Did the seller tell the carpet installer to do it that way, or was it his creative genius at work?

Posted by Dana Wilkinson, Broker-Your TX agent for The Woodlands-Spring-Conroe-Montgomery (Connect Realty, The Woodlands, TX) almost 3 years ago

Charles, thanks for sharing. It is hard to get good help anymore!

Posted by Jen Anderson (Exit By the Bay Realty) almost 3 years ago

You think he would have thought of the fire hazard in doing this.

Posted by Pat Champion (Coldwell Banker Camelot Realty) almost 3 years ago

Dana----I see 3 or 4 installations like this a year---pretty sure it is more than one installer:)

Jen, yup.

Pat, you would think so wouldn't you?

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

That's sort of funny...in a no duh kind of way. That's why we have inspections :)

Posted by Teresa K. Nelson (Windermere Real Estate SBA, Inc.) almost 3 years ago

Do you think the carpet installer had never seen a fireplace before? :)  And never went to camp, sat in front of a campfire, or anything else related to fires? :)

Posted by Shoshana Shay (St. Pete Realty) almost 3 years ago

Theresa---I hear you

Shoshana----yes but they were doing doobies at the time:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

Hi Charles: I love the crackle of a winter fire - bring the fireplace back!

:)

Posted by National Credit Fixers - Matt Listro almost 3 years ago

Matt, given how inefficient they are, don't look for a comeback any time soon----better go camping:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

Wow, Charles.  Maybe the carpet installer never owned a fireplace and doesn't realize why a hearth is there in the first place. 

Posted by Heather Chavez, Real Estate Virtual Assistant (928) 692-3235 (Second Self Virtual Assistance) almost 3 years ago

Chuckie Bee,

I had a fireplace a couple months back. Somehow it registered I had not seen the chimney. It ended in the attic under the sheathing.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 3 years ago

Heather---good question

Steve, that just doesn't seem right to me:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

Mr Charles,

Based on my experience, working as your apprentice, I imagine that your recommendation was that they use liquid nails to attach a piece of plywood over the opening so it would not be a fire hazard. I always admired your practical approach.

Nutsy S. Wallenda (trained by Buell)

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 3 years ago

PS-- Mr Charles, you forgot to mention that either the whole house tilts or the fireplace is a bit off of level. I hope you reported that.

Nutsy

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) almost 3 years ago

Nutsy the fireplace is perfectly level---you just have one eye higher than the other---tilt your head a little and you will see that I am right.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

Charles, that's almost too dumb to be believed unless the fireplace is never going to be used again.

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) almost 3 years ago

Nope Charles, you are wrong.  The paneling is still ugly, new carpet or not.

Posted by Tammy Lankford/Broker Lane Realty Lake Sinclair-Central GA almost 3 years ago

Tell me what you think of this one.  The folks put new vinyl in the bath rooms and the workers chipped off the first row of tile in order to slide the vinyl under.  OOPS!  How'd they put it back on?  They didn't.  Couldn't find a way.  Am I dumb to be thinking they were the dumbest installers in White County?

Vinyl installed

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) almost 3 years ago

Barbara, yup---and your tile job is a doozy as well.  Looks like they maybe took off the old tile base that had a "roll" to the bottom and then tried to cut the roll off and then it wasn't tall enough.  See that middle tile?  Doesn't it still have a little bit of the roll still on it?:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

Tamy, I stand SO corrected:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

Charles, I don't think they even tried to cut off the slight roll.  They were just idiots enough to think they could slide them back in place.  Why they didn't do the tile like they did the bathtub is beyond me.  I told the owner she needs to ask the carpet store owner to make it good. 

Posted by Barbara S. Duncan, CRS, GRI, e-PRO Searcy AR (RE/MAX Advantage) almost 3 years ago

Wow, you sure did burst my bubble, I thought pretty was all that mattered.

Posted by Jack Gilleland (Home Inspection and Investor Services, Clayton) almost 3 years ago

Barbara, does seem strange.

Jack, it is "better to look good than feel good":)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

That's some weird stuff! I keep thinking the fireplace is tilted and everything would slide off the mantle.

Posted by Lizette Fitzpatrick - Lexington KY MLS - Kentucky Homes - Horse Farms (Lizette Realty - Lexington KY - Richmond KY) almost 3 years ago

Lizette, I must admit the perspective is a little odd:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

We can only assume that the owners wanted it that way and don't intend to use the fireplace anymore.

I never was a fan of a fireplace being used as a decorative, display place.

Good post!

Posted by Tony Orefice Realtor/Kannapolis NC,Concord NC (Wilkinson and Associates/www.TonyOreficeRealtor.com) almost 3 years ago

Charlie - Probably somebody crunching numbers and thought more about saving money on carpet installation. Unbelieveable - cutting corners by not cutting corners.

Posted by Carol Culkin, Dutchess County (Century 21 Alliance Realty Group ) almost 3 years ago

Tony, thanks

Carol---good point:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

Key phrase is "know what they are doing..."

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) almost 3 years ago

absolutely

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) almost 3 years ago

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