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     At a recent inspection I was in the crawl space (where else) evaluating some cracks in the foundation.  This house was at the precipice of a very steep incline and the seller of the home had already purchased a Geo-technical engineer’s evaluation of the slope and how it related to these cracks in the foundation.  There was some sloping of the floors in this 32 year old house.  Doors and windows still operated normally (for the most part) and many people would not even notice the sloping.  Regardless, we had the engineer’s information about underlying soil conditions that likely accounted for this settlement. 

     I would say that, 9 times out of 10, settlement of foundations happens at the corners resulting in cracks away from the corner that are open at the top and closed at the footing-----kind of like a hinge as the corner drops.  There will usually be a corresponding crack either diagonally in the wall perpendicular to the wall or it will be perhaps across the foundation in a parallel wall indicative of the whole end of the house settling----as opposed to just one corner.

     This house was the 1 out of 10.   The settlement occurred in the middle of the run of the wall resulting in a crack that was open at the footing and closed at the top.  Its corresponding cracks were at the corners and these cracks were predictably open at the top and closed at the bottom.

     What was interesting was that someone was thoughtful enough to write on the wall the width of the crack at the time of inspection.

Crack in the foundation

     What would have made this measurement useful would have been a date.  If I knew whether the date was written 20 years ago or 2 years ago would make the job of what I could tell my buyer a whole lot more meaningful.  With no date----the measurement might as well not be there.

     While at first glance one might look at this crack and say, “so what?”  Well, a crack like this that is open 38” on a wall that is 24” tall is evidence of much more settlement than a wall with a 3/8” gap that is 10 feet tall.  From this crack, it can be deduced (without laser levels) that the point of cracking away from the corner has settled approximately 2-1/2”----given the length of the wall.

     No wonder the floors feel like they slope.

 

Charles Buell

 

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Comments

I think the homeowner must have dont it the night before .. just so no one would ask .. hmm how big of a crack is that there ... no no on the wall.

Posted by Eric Reid (Renaissance Realty Group ) about 3 years ago

Eric----of course anyone could write any date they want with the measurement too:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) about 3 years ago

This business is sometimes more than it's "cracked up" to be.

Posted by Glenn Shong (Re/Max Realty Center) about 3 years ago

Glenn, one thing that is for sure----if you have concrete----you have cracks:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) about 3 years ago

Charlie,

You probably wrote it yourself the last time you inspected the house, but forgotted and all. Advanced age stinks.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) about 3 years ago

I can't remember---maybe you are right.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) about 3 years ago

it's where i tried my first cigar... on march eight.

Posted by Alan May, Coldwell Banker RealtorĀ® Evanston, Illinois & Northern Suburbs (847.425.3779 almay@aol.com) about 3 years ago

Ouch Steve! Charles, we are only as old as we feel...

Posted by Paul Henderson, Broker, RealtorĀ® Tacoma,Gig Harbor,DuPont,HartstenePointe (RE/MAX Professionals & Four Seasons Inc.) about 3 years ago

Alan----very good idea---was it any good?

Paul---lets hope so:)

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) about 3 years ago

Im left with the same question I have after reading many inspection reports and that is....so what?

What I mean is....How wide is the crack now?  is the house going to slide down the slope?   What corrective action is needed; if any?

I understand that home inspectors only report what they see, Id just like a little advice too

Posted by Ron Parise (LocateHomes.com) about 3 years ago

I have been told quite often that there is no future in getting old...

Your building consultant in Nashville, TN

Posted by Michael Thornton - Nashville, TN area Home Inspector - 615.661.0297 (Complete Home Inspections, Inc.) about 3 years ago
  • I want to know if the buyers passed (as in NOT buying) or purchased (as in THIS house)... kate ford
Posted by Ask Kate for answers (Get-Your-Best-Mortgage-Rate.com) about 3 years ago

nahh... I was 15, and it turned me several shades of green

Posted by Alan May, Coldwell Banker RealtorĀ® Evanston, Illinois & Northern Suburbs (847.425.3779 almay@aol.com) about 3 years ago

Always insightful.  Wish you were down our way.  Do you have an outside Blog.  The public should see what you have to say.

Posted by Gene Riemenschneider East Contra Costa Home Sales 01492725 (Home Point Real Estate) about 3 years ago

R0n giving accurate pretictions around these sorts of cracks can be difficult even for trained professionals.

Michael, I have heard the same thing:)

Kate----they bought

Alan----we have all been there I think:)

Gene, what do you mean by an outside blog?  The public finds me here sometimes.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) about 3 years ago

Worse than a builder whose idea is to just "beat it to fit, paint it to match!" You see all sorts of strange stuff in your business!

Posted by Russell Lewis, Broker,CLHMS,GRI (Realty Austin, Austin Texas Real Estate) about 3 years ago

Russell that would be the "if it doesn't fit----get a bigger hammer" approach.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) about 3 years ago

Charlie,

I once found a house where they had put one of those glue on crack monitors over the crack..,..same thing......NO DATE.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) about 3 years ago

Charlie - my weekly perusal of so many posts!  Well, when people ask me if this or that crack is important or relevant, my answer usually is something along the lines of it depends on how old it is.  A date on that crack would have been golden info!

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 3 years ago

I agree with Jay, it depends on its age is the usual answer.

Posted by Tad Petersen / Home Inspector, Mpls (Safeguard Home Inspections, Inc.) about 3 years ago

Chuckie Bee,

Are you back yet. If so, please send Nutsy back up here. Tell him I need to consult with him.

Posted by Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection, Inc) about 3 years ago

Steve----there is even a place to put a date too:)

Jay, I agree, without a date there is not much you can deduce (unless you can still smell the brimstone:)

Tad----seems like we are all in agreement that age is an important factor for useful information.

Sorry Steve----Nutsy is lunch today.

Posted by Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector (Charles Buell Inspections.com) about 3 years ago

Brimstone, let's see, fire and brimstone, that bad town, um, what's it now, about 2000 BC?  So, if you could smell it in that house, what would the date be?

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) about 3 years ago

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