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     In the past I have gotten my Underoos all in a bunch writing about the installation of roof pipe flashings that are not "consistent" with the expected life of the roof. 

     The types of pipe flashings that I am talking about are the ones that have a stretch-rubber component designed to fit tightly against the sides of the pipe.  They may be constructed entirely of this stretch rubber material or a combination of harder plastic materials or metal materials.  All three of these types of flashings have about a 15 year life expectancy making them suitable for roofs designed to last that long.  These types of flashings should not be used with any of the many other types of roofs designed to last a lot longer than that.

     This first picture is of the "metal/rubber" type pipe flashing installed on a roof designed to last 20-30 years (note also that it is the wrong size flashing for the size of the pipe).

Pipe flashings

     This next picture is of the "all rubber" type pipe flashing installed on a metal roof designed to last 50 years or more.

Wrong pipe flashing for metal roof 

     So far, these flashings have not "failed" because the roofs they are installed on are still less than 15 years old.  The other day, the house I inspected had the "plastic/rubber" type pipe flashings installed----and they were failing.  The flashings were 15 years old on a roof designed to last 30 to 40 years----a perfect example of what I have been "tilting at windmills" about.  Here are a couple of pictures of two of six flashings on that roof.

Wrong pipe flashing on Composition Roof 

 Splits in the pipe flashing 

     You might ask, "Well, yeah, but how much water can actually get in there?"  The answer is quite a lot----enough to do significant damage over time----not to mention a place where bees can get into the roof structure.

Don (formerly Charles)    

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Why is there a BARGE on my roof?

     The fascia board on the Gable end of a home is called a "barge rafter".  Often these rafters extend past the eaves to create a place to hide the end of the gutter or as a decorative element.  It is important that the top edge be properly flashed with either roofing materials or a metal flashing to prevent decay/rot in the ends of the rafter.  This first picture shows good examples of nicely capped barge rafters (foreground and background).barge rafters

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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     This next picture shows what will happen if it is not properly capped.barge rafters

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

      In this case more than the end is deteriorated and most likely the whole rafter will need to be replaced.  Fortunately the roof needs replacement as well, which will make replacement of the rafter easier---and should be replaced in conjunction with the roof replacement (these rafters are very difficult to replace without removing the roofing above it).

      If the ends of the rafters on your home are not properly capped it is a pretty simple thing to fix and can save a lot of costly repairs later on.

Charles Buell

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Got my UNDEROOS all in a bunch!

     One of the great things about being a home inspector is that there is an endless supplyof things to get ones Underoos all in a bunch about! (Those of you that had kids growing up in the 70's will remember Underoos---maybe they are still around?).  This pet peeve is another roofing issue.  On almost every roof pipes have to go through the roof, whether it is the electrical mast or the plumbing venting.

     Sometime I will blog about some "crazy and/or funky" ways people have flashed these pipe penetrations, but today my peeve involves the use of "approved" types of flashings----but with no consideration for the type of roof they are being used on.  There are, for example, rubber boot type flashings that typically have a life of about 15-20 years (if you are lucky and hold your breath just right).  Why would anyone consider using these types of flashings on a roof designed to last 20-40 years?  I see this ALLthe time .  Here are a couple of pictures of the cheapo rubber boot flashings:cheapo flashinganother cheapo flashing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

      The one on the left is installed on a 20-30 year roof, the one on the right is most likely consistent with the expected life of wood shingles---but is installed just plain funky (remember when wood shakes used to be considered a 50 year roof?----well neither do I, but I have been told that they could last that long---in the good ole days).    

     The flashings I like to see are lead---and they are a "beautiful thing!"  Not only do they provide a very long lived solution to the problem but even have nice counter flashings to finish off the top.  Sometimes roofers will merely fold the flashing inside the pipe, but the counter-flashings look really cool and are necessary if the pipe sticks past the flashing.  The two pictures on the left show nice versions of this.  The picture on the right shows one where the counter-flashing is missing.lead flashinganother lead flashingMissing cap

 

 

 

 

 Charles Buell

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