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We just horse around with air conditioning in Seattle!

 

     The Pacific Northwest is more or less “naturally” air conditioned and the need for a mechanical air conditioning system is rarely necessary like it is in other parts of the country.

     I see a few Air Conditioning systems----and when I do they are more likely to be incorporated into high-end homes or commercial structures and often in conjunction with heat pumps.  Frankly I see Heat Pumps as a more economically justifiable system in the Northwest----with the Air Conditioning aspect being just a side benefit that comes with the Heat Pump.  It is the other way around in most parts of the country.

     This picture shows the basic approach to installing air conditioners in the NW when it is NOT a high end home.  It is very important to get yourself a good saw horse----one that you can cut the legs off of so that it will sit nicely on whatever pitch your roof is.  You can use any old piece of plywood as a shelf----it will delaminate appropriately on its own over time. 

 

 

 

 

air conditioner supported by saw horse

 

Charles Buell

 

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Don’t need a weather-head, to know which way the wind blows!

     The weather-head on the electrical system is to keep water from entering the electrical mast when the wires run to the home overhead----as opposed to going to the house underground.  It also helps protect the wires from mechanical damage as well as orient the wires so that they point down so that water won’t run along the wires and into the mast.  It is a really good idea to keep water out of the mast because if it enters the mast it will end up in the electrical panel and make a mess of things.  Water and electrical components brought together in this situation are----as usual----bad juju.  Here is a picture of a proper cap.

Weather-head on the electrical service mast

     There are several defects in this picture----of which the weather-head is NOT one of them----maybe the other inspectors here in the Rain can point out some of them.  One of the defects is actually one of the most dangerous defects you can find in a home----a matter of life and death.

     In this next picture we can see where the cap is missing and the top of the pipe is wrapped with electrical tape to keep the water out----obviously not a proper cap. 

Missing weather-head

     This is not a difficult fix----just needs a proper cap installed by the licensed electrical contractor.

 

 

 

Charles Buell

 

 

 

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The difference between Bondage and Bonding.

 

WARNING:  This post has the potential to cause one’s eyes to glaze over!

 

     In my blog I usually strive to keep things from getting too “technical”----or too “risqué.”  I have wanted to do a post about the differences between “Main” Electrical Distribution Panels (the place where your main breaker is) and “Remote” Distribution panels----more commonly known as “Sub-Panels.  The main difference between the two----without getting too technical is how they are “bonded.”

     “Grounding” and “bonding” get thrown around casually sometimes as if there is no difference between the two.  In Residences “grounding” happens at the Main Electrical Distribution Panel and consists of the grounding conductor being connected to the Neutral/Ground bar and then to one or more of several options:  Ground Rods, Metal Water Pipes coming to the house, and/or Rebar in the foundation footings.

     Other metallic systems in the home will be “bonded” (connected) to these “grounded” parts of the system.  So if you have metal water pipes, or metal heating system pipes, or gas supply pipes, or cable/telephone systems in the home, these systems would all be connected mechanically (bonded) to the grounding conductor of the home.

     The critical thing to keep in mind about bonding and grounding is that at the Main Distribution Panel, the Neutral Wires (white wires) and the Equipment Ground Wires (bare copper---sometimes coated green wires) join together on the Neutral/Ground bar.  So in the Main Panel you will find all of these white and bare copper wires connected to the same termination bar.

     I really don’t want to get into the reasons why this is so in this post.  Just keep in mind that in a Remote Distribution Panel (sub-panel) the equipment ground wires and neutral wires cannot be joined together.  In fact even at switches and receptacles or anywhere else wires are brought together----the equipment ground wires and neutral wires must never be connected together.

     Now I will change my mind and tell you that the reason for this is that there is a small amount of current that always flows on the neutral wire in the normal operation of appliances etc and you do not want that current running on the bare ground wires----these wires are connected to things you might touch.

     So now let’s look at the electrical panel in the picture below.  On the left side of the picture we can see all the bare copper wires that are all the equipment ground wires.  There is one big honking one that comes in with the big black conductors from the Main Distribution Panel.  There is another big honking one that goes off to a gas pipe---out through the top of the panel.  There is a whole bunch of little ones from individual circuits.  Now aside from the fact that there are some issues with the way all of these bare ground wires are terminated in terms of the number of wires under each screw, the thing I want you to pay attention to is that they are all connected to their own little metal bar that is connected directly to the metal box itself.

     Now look at the big wire with the white tape like a barber pole.  That is the Neutral wire and notice how it is connected to the vertical neutral bar on the left side (the bottom end is visible below the breakers on the left side) and that there is a Crossover Arm connected to it that goes over to the vertical bar on the right side.  This is what we look for when we talk about the ground wires and the neutral wires being isolated from each other in a sub-panel.  All of the electrical components related to the Neutral wires are separated from the metal box with pieces of plastic----so they don’t touch each other.

 

Improperly wired Remote Distribution panel in Seattle

     But wait a minute captain----we have a problem.

     Can anyone see the problem?

     Take a look at that crossover arm that connects the left neutral bar to the right neutral bar.  Do you see that very pretty green screw?  That green screw is shipped with the panel, from the manufacturer, so that when the panel is going to be used as a main panel the Neutral bar can become a Neutral/Ground bar.  The screw is meant to be discarded when the panel is being used as a sub-panel---like this one is.  So in this installation we run the risk of running some amount of current onto all of those bare copper wires and to every thing they are connected to----including you if you touch them.  It is an unimaginably easy fix----the green screw merely needs to be removed----by the licensed electrical contractor.  But not to worry----if there is this defect, there will likely be others----to soften the electrician’s “minimum” service call.

     Now for all of those that are wondering when I am going to get to the bondage part-----ask Dr. Ruth----that is what Google is for.

 

Charles Buell

 

 

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Homes on Death Row.

    Don Quixote rides again.  I usually do my best to stay off my high horse---but this is a recurring theme and one that seems to be happening more often as more people get in trouble with their mortgages and banks take possession of the properties.

Ice on a flat roof     The problem? 

     Winterization.

     Winterization is the process of turning off all the utilities and draining the water pipes in the home (theoretically).  I am baffled by this practice----it is akin to withholding food and water from a person in solitary confinement.  I know, some would say it is a bit of a stretch to compare a human being (no matter what they have done) to a house----but I will stick with the metaphor. 

      At a recent inspection we were given permission to turn the water back on.  There was an obvious leak under the kitchen sink and we had to immediately turn the water back off which prevented further evaluation of functional aspects of the plumbing---including drainage.

Leaking pipe under kitchen sink      To winterize a home in any climate can be problematic, and I am hoping some of the inspectors here in the Rain from warmer areas of the country will chime in with the adverse effects of winterizing homes in their areas. 

     In colder climates, leaving the house unheated can do tremendous amounts of damage.  Heated air holds much more moisture than cold air, couple this with people coming and going in the house or moving the air around through the heating system or with exhaust fans, there is less opportunity for moisture to find cold surfaces to condense on.  (There are many situations where this can still happen---but when you don’t heat the house you can guarantee it.)  Now let’s take the home and turn off all the utilities, close up all the doors and windows and say, “see you later.”  Moisture is always moving into homes from the ground and the air inside the home will equilibrate with whatever the humidity is outdoors.  This moisture tends to condense out of the air on the first cold surface it finds (because there is no warm air to hold it).  These cold surfaces tend to be the windows and drywall of the home making these surfaces prone to mold and other fungal growth-----kind of like an empty refrigerator.  We all know how nasty an empty refrigerator can get.

     So let’s come back to why winterization happens.  In a word:  $Money.$

     As Mr. Rogers might have said, “Can you say, ‘short-sighted?’”

     Winterization is actually a euphemism for, “F*%# you house!”  So, unless the house is going to be bulldozed, it makes far more economic sense to pay what it takes to keep your “investment” valuable.  The amount of money saved by turning off the utilities will almost always make the home less valuable in the long run----not to mention less marketable. There is nothing like showing your buyer the inside of a refrigerator----everyone just can’t wait to get the heck out of there----and go have coffee at the one with the open house.

     It is easy to understand when a homeowner has been pushed out onto the street due to loss of their job that they would not be able to maintain the utilities.  When banks do it they become a part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution.  Some would argue that they have always been part of the problem.

 

 

Charles Buell

 

 

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The Seattle Inspector as: Gumby!

     I have had a spate of tight crawl spaces lately----an earlier one I blogged about was in a Seattle Houseboat.

     When my buyer called to book this inspection we discussed that the craw space was going to be difficult to get into.  I recommended that necessary permissions be gotten to do whatever it took to get into the space.  This is what the access opening looked like.

Really tight crawl space opening

     While I like to think of myself as “Gumby,” there was no way I was going to deform myself enough to get through this opening.  So, while the opening was made larger by removing some of the deck boards, I concerned myself with other parts of the inspection.  I anticipated the worst, given that this opening had been just like you see it----open----for who knows how long.  I knew that although I couldn’t fit through this opening, there was any number of other critters that could.  This post is not about the condition of the crawl space, but about the process of getting into it.

     I would like to share with you a series of photos taken (by the agent with my camera) of me getting into the crawl space.  The time between the first and last picture-----12 seconds! (I know----I couldn’t believe it myself)

Starting to get into the crawl space

4 seconds later

8 seconds later

12 seconds----made it

 

Charles Buell

 

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Moose Drool!

 

     For all our discussions of late about Inspectors walking on roofs or not, I have had a flurry of roofs that I would not walk on.

     One of the most popular battles that weekend warriors like to wage is building decks.  The next thing they realize, when they are sitting out on the deck enjoying a nice cold “Moose Drool” beer and it either starts to rain or it is too sunny, is that they need a roof.  While it is not often the case in Seattle that there is too much sun----the drizzle is real.

     To put a roof over a deck is WAY more complicated than building a deck.  One must answer questions like how it is going to be attached to the house so that there is still enough head room under it to walk on the deck surface.  In this picture we see one solution. 

Very flat roof over a deck

    Well not really so much a “solution” as a “problem”-----unless you count that all of the roofing structural materials are “in solution” being saturated with water.  With this solution, having enough headroom and having enough slope were not compatible.

     These three tab type shingles should never be installed on a roof this flat.  Water can easily back up under the shingles where it will fill the roof structure up with water----as is evidenced by the dripping water seen in the next picture.

Water dripping out of roof structure

     A wood roof saturated with water can get VERY HEAVY.  We then must consider how it is attached to the house.

Poor roof connection

     Wimpy 2x4’s attached to an even wimpier 1x6 fascia----all with no metal brackets or hangers.

     All we need now is 6” of heavy wet snow to top it all off----well at least for a while----till it ends the Moose Drool party.

ps:  This was a "Listing Feature"

 

Charles Buell

 

 

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Moss Code----rot is Mother Nature’s recycling program.

     Yesterday I did a post about a roof that was “toast.”  

     Today’s “toast” goes to the deck at the same house.

     The entire deck structure goes way beyond the realm of “unsafe” and into the realm of “compost.”  It is interesting to note that it was never built to be safe even when it was brand new (ledger not bolted, ledger not flashed, undersized joists and beams, no joist hangers, improper surface etc).  There was extensive rot in most structural components and the plywood deck surface was badly rotten and covered with moss.  It was pretty obvious that this deck had been unsafe for a long time and yet there were no barriers from the house preventing anyone from walking out onto it.  Of course getting to the deck from the ground was made “challenging” by the fact that the stairs had completely rotted away.

Rotten deck support post

I always wanted a deck garden---or was that a garden deck?

Stairway to heaven

     Anyone walking out on this deck in the dark would certainly have rotten luck.

 

Charles Buell

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Home Inspection: Not Walking the Roof -- A Sign of Incompetence?

 

        Steve Smith did an excellent blog about home inspectors and the issue of inspecting roofs. 

      For those who still don't understand the importance of Home Inspectors getting on the roof to do a proper inspection of the roof I am including a couple of pictures that show areas of roofs that could never be assessed properly from the ground or from ladders.  The home inspector is in the best position to provide this information for the consumer as opposed to the Roofing Contractor that has a vested interest in fixing and replacing roofs.
    
My advice to buyers (or inspectors) that will not inspect these roofs-----find a home inspector that will.

 

Hidden valley

More hidden valleys

 

 

 

Via Steven L. Smith, Bellingham, Wa. Home Inspector (King of the House Home Inspection):
Is a home inspector incompetent if he or she does not, as a general rule, traverse roofs?

At one time it would have been safe to say "no, failure to go on the roof does not make an inspector incompetent". However, as client expectations change, and many in the industry strive to improve the credibility of home inspectors, I think that the answer to that question is now bobbing in the surf. As the public and the industry demand better home inspections, that is good for the consumer.

Let's look at some of the changes that are emerging. The old standards, used seemingly forever by the better-known home inspector organizations, were written to make it easy for an inspector to opt out of walking on a roof -- even low-sloped and flat roofs.

NAHI says:

"The inspector will, if possible, inspect the roof surface and components from arms-length or with binoculars from the ground."

 NACHI says:

"The inspector is not required to walk on any pitched roof surface."

ASHI says:

"The inspector is not required to walk on the roofing."

So, under those rules, if so inclined, an inspector can pull-up on-site, knowing full well that he or she will not try to walk the roof. Heck, there are no violations of standards, no explanations required, just tell the clients you do not do roofs. Do these people realize they are home inspectors? If an inspector cannot traverse even a simple single-story roof that is flat, or 3/12 slope with three-tab shingles, should that person with that attitude be a home inspector at all? Sure, some people are afraid of roofs and heights, but we hope that does not include those who are working as home inspectors.

Here is why I think changes are in the wind. First, I saw an article online from CREIA. CREIA (California Real Estate Inspection Association) flat-out states that any inspector who does not normally walk the roof may not be doing a "competent" job. There is no state inspector licensing in California but CREIA, a non-profit, voluntary association, provides education, training, and support services to the real estate inspection industry and to the public. They state that their Standards of Practice have been recognized by the State of California, and are considered to be the source for Home Inspector Standard of Care by the real estate and legal communities.

Okay, so they have been around more than 30 years and they have credibility. So let us look at what they tell Californians, consumers, who are looking at hiring a home inspector:

"A detailed roof evaluation is a standard part of every competent home inspection. Home inspectors typically inspect a roof by walking on the surface, as this is the best way to observe and evaluate all pertinent conditions. There are some conditions that could keep an inspector off the roof (barring these circumstances, a competent inspector should include a walk on the roof)". The conditions they list include: The surface is too high for access with a normal length ladder; The roofing is so deteriorated that foot traffic would cause further damage; Surface conditions such as snow, ice, moisture, or moss make the roof too slippery; The roofing consists of tiles that might break under foot pressure; The sellers have told the inspector to stay off the roof

The intent is clear -- the inspector should arrive on-site prepared to walk the roof. Any decision, not to go on the roof, should be based on conditions found at the site, not pre-conceived policies that exclude walking the surface of the roof. Put simply, if one is not walking the roof, that should be the exception and not the rule. I always arrive prepared to traverse the roof, sometimes circumstances are such that I cannot.

This policy, expecting more from home inspectors, does not stop in California. The Washington State Home Inspector Licensing Advisory Board has put even stronger language in the Standards of Practice for this state. These standards become law in September.

Roofs.

The inspector will: 

Traverse the roof to inspect it.

There it is. Again, the intent is clear. The licensed home inspector, by law, must be willing to traverse roofs. There are times when an inspector cannot and should not go on the roof. The board is aware of that and there are "outs" in the law, as there must be.

But, if as a general practice, an inspector does not walk roofs, he or she is violating the law as written. There were some members on the board who wanted even stronger language in this regard. It would have mandated full disclosure to clients, when the inspection was booked, that the inspector does not go on roofs.

The bottom line: No inspector can walk every roof and some roofs are plain unsafe or could be damaged. But inspectors who have a policy of not going on roofs at all, or do not have an open-mind about it, are leaving out an important part of the home inspection. Fact is, it can be hard to detect roof and flashing problems even when you are up on the roof, let alone when you are on the ground or trying to stand on an incline to get a look. You have a better chance of inspecting fine details, appurtenances and flashings if you are actually up on the roof.

My view is that, to intentionally and as standard practice, to avoid roofs is a marginal effort on the part of the inspector -- to say the least. The inspector, later, writing into the report some generic mumbo-jumbo language -- called covering your rear -- suggesting that a roofer ought to get up there and check the roof at a later date is a poor substitute for, in the words of CREIA, a competent home inspection in the first place.

Steven L. Smith

Bellingham WA Home Inspections

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Louis Pasteur’s garden!

 

     Why don’t kitchen sinks have overflow holes?

     Sinks with overflow holes are not allowed in food preparation areas due to the possibility of providing a place for bacteria and mold to grow around the overflow----stuff you might not want as a condiment for food. 

Undermount kitchen sink     In general, the area around sinks should be kept very well sealed and caulked in order for them to be more easily maintained and kept sanitary.  Weather the sinks are self rimming sinks, or under-mount type sinks, the connection between the two should be properly caulked.  Of course the Corian type sinks where the sink actually becomes part of the countertop is by far the easiest type to maintain. 

     Under-mount sinks are very fashionable these days, for a nice “clean” look, yet they can actually be less sanitary than a self-rimming type unless one is very vigilant in cleaning the underside of the countertop where the sink is caulked to the bottom side.  Add to this----in the case of granite---that the underside of the overhangs is usually “unfinished” and creates an ideal place for mold and bacteria to grow (kind of like the underside of the toilet tank where there is no enamel coating).

     In the following picture you can see where the connection of the sink to the countertop has not been caulked, creating a gap where mold and bacteria WILL grow.

Missing caulk at sink and countertop connection

     It is best to keep Louis out the kitchen all together.

 

 

 

Charles Buell

 

 

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Seasick and Sleepless in Seattle!

      As a builder I have worked on houseboats, and as an inspector I have Seattle Floating Homesinspected a few.  They are an interesting Seattle phenomenon----you may remember them in the movie “Sleepless in Seattle.”  The “boat” part is a bit of a misnomer however, and “floating home” or “rafts” comes a bit closer to describing them.  Very few---if any have an actual hull like a boat---and even fewer resemble a boat.  In the early days, some of them looked like boats and probably were boats.

     They represent a very Niche Market in the Real Estate world and are typically VERY EXPEN$IVE and hard to come by under almost any market condition----most costing more than a million dollars.  Most people assume there is a moratorium on adding to the roughly 500 existing floating homes existing on Lake Union and Portage Bay.  That is only true relative to the huge hurdles to overcome in terms of getting permits to build new ones.  Having enough land to provide parking for the structures to be built is perhaps one of the biggest hurdles.

     The Seattle Times did a great article that discusses these floating homes and I won’t attempt to duplicate that information here.  For more information please check out the article: “New houseboat development on Lake Union is buoyed by demand.”  

      From an inspector’s point of view, they represent a whole world of Seattle Floating Homesdisclaimers and modifications of standard inspection protocols.  After all, what percentage of normal homes can sink (actually very difficult) or float away in the middle of the night?

      Another thing about them----especially the ones built prior to more modern standards----is that nothing is level or square, doors don’t stay open or closed, and some are only accessible to inspection underneath by scuba divers or kayak.  All Houseboat connectionsfloating homes must have flexible connections for the sewage, waterlines, gas lines and electric lines that run to them----plus the building itself must be pretty well attached to the dock structures with flexible connections to allow for movement of the building on the water as well as for changing water levels.  The picture at the right shows one of the flexible brackets that connect the structure to the dock.  Above this connection one can see the flexible electrical connection.  Beyond that connection is the flexible gas connection.  The structures on these small lakes are less vulnerable to storms than they are to the large wakes from passing boats.

     They are kind of fun to inspect being on the water---with great views of the water, boats and surroundings.

Seattle floating home view

       It is a little weird inspecting the roof and thinking about falling in water instead of on land.  On one I dropped the cap of my moisture meter and got to watch it sink to the bottom.  To know where the cap is and not be able to get it, is way worse than having no idea where you lost it.

     Originally, some of these floating structures were built on giant old growth cedar logs as much as 6 feet in diameter---most of those have been replaced----but some remain.  The modern ones are build on floating concrete structures filled with foam.  Yesterday’s post discusses one with a crawl space.  Many have no crawl space at all and are built much like a house on land that has been built on a concrete slab.  In fact, these slabs on land are often called “floating slabs.”  The ones on land are poured as monolithic reinforced concrete slabs and float on a bed of crushed stone-----a little bit different that the floating homes of Seattle.  The concept is similar though----the foam element replaces the gravel.

     So take your Dramamine and hop aboard!

 

 

Charles Buell

 

 

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